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Installation of motorised satellite dish - classic motor

Many viewers saw, reading the special magazines about satellite TV, that except programs form satellite that they watch (our viewers usually receive programs from two most popular European satellites - Astre 1 19.2°E and HotBirda 13°E), there’s many other programs which are emited on other satellites which are emiting on other positions. If he wants to be able to watch those programs as well, the viewer will have to install as many dishs as the number of satellites he wants to watch. Today that isn’t very practical and what is more important it’s to expenssive. Usually is recomended that on satellite dish with diameter of 120 cm you can you can put up to 4 LNBs and receive programs from four satellites in 20° area for example from Astra on 19.2°E to Thor on 1°W = 20°.


 

 

For receiving programs from more satellites it’s recomended to acquire motor and positioner. It enables moving your satellite dish and off course with that you have access to more satellite programs for watching, especially if you have digital receiver.
The procedure of installation mitorised satellite dish itself isn’t so big intervention concerning the technical side in other words fixing the satellite dish. Much bigger problem represents preciese directioning the dish so that it can follow the orbit of all accessible satellites. Namely, it must be directed so that during moving it exactly follows the curve of geostationery orbit of the satellite so called Clark’s belt (see the scheme)

But let’s take one step at the time.
For installation of the dish first you’ll need to prepare required material: dish carrier – any kind of wall carrier or pillar, satellite dish, receiver, LNB, F – connectors, coacssial cable, cable with four wires (or double two wired cable same lenght), positioner and motor. Beside that you’ll need basic tool: power drill and proper bores, spirit-level, meter, water color marker for marking and TV for picture control if you don’t have sat-meter and scart cable and connection for electricity – you’ll need three connections. 
Choosing the place for installation 
Before the installation (even better before any kind of shopping) of motorised dish you must choose the place where you are going to install it. Usually it can happen that people buy the whole complet first and then it turns out that they can’t install it on the house. However those kind of cases are pretty rare. Mostly even in most hopeless cases you can do the installation. If you aren’t sure that the choosed place is good enough for placing the dish with motor call an expert for installation. The expert will check all possibilities and help you with advice if it’s neccesary.

If you want to go trough installation completely by yourself you must have in mind next three things:
1. place for installation must be easely accessible
2. it has to have clear sight toward south
3. there can’t be any large buildings or vegetation in front of it, which could shade incoming signal because you couldn’t watch anything.

The smalest distance from any object is 2 meters and the object must be at least 1 meter above dish. When you’ve determine that, you can fix dish holder. You can do that on two different ways. Fixing it on the wall or on the pillar.
For this kind of installation, especially if you do the whole procedure by yourself, we recomend that you install your dish on the pillar (if it’s possible in your garden, private plot etc.). That kind of installed dish is easely accessible and the manuverig with it and precise adjusting is much easier. If you can’t install the dish on this way then you only can install it on the wall keeping in mind first quote – easely accessible.

Installation of the pillar

For the pillar installation in your garden you’ll need to, off course, dig a hole of specific size depending on height of the pillar. The bigger dish, which is going to be installed is the higher and stronger the pillar and the hole are.
If we are talking here about dish which has in diameter 120 cm, then the dimension of the hole would have to be minimaly 50x50x50 and the lenght of the pillar between 1,5-2 meters. When you moved out whole dirt from the hole, on the bottom and along the hole stick 5-6 iron sticks lenght between 20-30 cm. They’ll be used for better adherence of the concrete and that the concrete mass itself is more solid so that concrete lump just don’t overturn one day. When you have done that adjust the pillar. Remeber that it has to be 100% vertical, mesured from every side. When you achive that fix the pillar verry well. Do not forget to control verticality during the concrete and correct the possible errors.
 After you’ve concrete the stick leve it few days until concrete is dry and then you can start installation. Installation on the pillar you can do on other way also. You can dig up a hole on the same way like in previous case, put it some iron for fixing and concrete without the stick. Later you can fix the stick for the base but don’t forget that final base of the concrete must be 100% horizontal because then the stick will stand verticaly 100%
 
 
Installation on the wall

For installation on the wall use wall holders as circumstances require. For their installation procedure look up in the manual for one satellite installation. pay attention that vertical stick of the carrier, where you’ll fix dish, is 100% vertical from each side. When you installed the pillar you are continueing with the instalation.

Installation 

If you don’t have sat-meter, then you have to put your satellite receiver, positioner (if it’s not allready installed in the receiver) and TV on  reachable place so that you can control if you’ve find the satellite and control picture quality. Connect all three components with scart cable. Don’t plug in the components into the electricity before you connect with coaxial LNB onto the satellite receiver.
 Then you install motor on the dish carrier. Fix the screw just a little bit for later fine adjusting. Remeber that motor must be in north-south position. By us that position overlaps vith position of Eutelsat W2 satellite on 16OE. If motor isn’t adjusted by the manufacturer on the 0O mark then you’ll have to do it so that you connect two wires on the motor and positioner and manualy, helping yourself with the motor, turn motor so it shows 0O.
 Every motor usually has two embossments which look like an aim which is used for adjusting the north-south direction of the dish. You can easely claculate the north-south direction since it overlaps with position of Eutelsat W2 satellite. Beside that you can calculate it trough time of sunrise and sunset in your town. Sum those two values and divide it with 2 if it’s summer time in question. Then you have to subract 1 hour from the result. The final value you get is the time in which you have to, helping yourself with stick or something else, mark the shadow of the sun. You can get data about sunrise and sunset from radio or meteorological stations. You must pay attention that data which you will be using are for that day when you’re going to make measurements. If, for example, sun comes up at 5.23am. and sets down at 7.20pm the sum is 5.23 + 19.20 = 24.43/2 = 12. 22. If the summer time is in question you have to subratct 1 hour from the result (by winter time you don’t have to correct the result). So, the result is 11.22 and it means that if you measure the shadow for that day you’ll get the correct north-south direction. All you have to do now is to adjust the motor, with help of the aim, in precise north-south direction.
For installation of the dish you’ll have to know geographic latitude of you place and declination. That’s the angle between polar axis of the motor and plane of the satelitte dish (see the table for declination). Declination is inclination of the earth and depends on geographic latitude. Then you’ll have to incline motor for determined angle or elevation and you’ll do it easely because all motor have engraved scale in degrees and it’s equal to your latitude and that’s the angle between polar axis and horizont. 
For Eutelsat W2 in our country, it’s arround 38O. However to that result you have to add the amount of declination which in our country is 7O so that final result is 44O. Thats the value which shows you how much you need to incline your motor. 
After that install the motor on the satellite dish with LNB and fix tight all screws. The dish must be completely parallel with dish’s carrier and, in this case, it doesn’t incline like in installation for one or more satellites. Don’t forget to connect LNB with satellite receiver. However with all this actions the dish isn’t still directed exactly to the satellites.  
Geographic latitude and declination angles.  

Latitude°
Declination °
26
3.81
27
3.95
28
4.08
29
4.21
30
4.34
31
4.47
32
4.60
33
4.72
34
4.85
35
4.97
36
5.09
37
5.21
38
5.33
39
5.45
40
4.56
41
5.68
42
5.79
43
5.90
44
6.00
45
6.11
46
6.21
47
6.31
48
6.41
49
6.51
50
6.61

 

Now connect motor to the positioner with the wire cable. Connect motor’s mark + and – on the motor with the same one on the positioner. Then you connect marked connectors for sensor and GND – earthing. Watch out that you accidentally don’t connect outputs for the motor from the positioner on the sensor mark on the motor because that will destroy sensor an motor emediatelly which then can’t be used iwthout expensive repair (if it’s even possible to perform the repair).
 
Now you can turn on whole equipment and the satellite receiver. The first thing what you’ll have to do is to adjust so called motor limit. That’s programed the very last western and eastern position on which dish stops. It’s used to stop the motor to spining to much if it’s nor neccesary, and if there are some obstacles on the dishs path. To avoid them, in other word that dish wont even come to them we will determine the limit (see the picture). First adjust eastern limit. In receiver’s menu with positioner or positioner itself go to the option called limit adjusting and confirm your choice. Positioner will now ask you to turn the dish toward east to desired position. When you’ve reached it confirm that new value and then the eastern limit is memorised. Repeat the same procedure for western limit.
Then adjust on one of the programs on Eutelsat W2 satellite on 16OE, in our case near south. Try to move the dish very slowly first right and then left with the motor or positioner and you should have to have picture on your screen. When you get the picture memorise the position under some number like for example 5. After that turn the dish with motor toward west aal the way until you find some satellite from which you can watch his programs. You can use Telecom satellite on 8OW even thou he’s not the satellite who’s most to the west. When you turn your dish you’ll have to have programs from this satellite. When the picture shows memorise the position. Now turn back the dish on the W2 position. The picture must be the same as it was before. Then turn the dish toward Astra’s position on 19.2OE. The picture should have show to you on your TV screen.
Now you should be able to see all programs which are emited from satellites whos position is between this which are memorised. When you find the new satellite memorise it like teh position with specific number. The most practicle would be if you’ll memorise the positions (increasing the numbers) from east to west. You can memorise Astra on position 1, Eutelsat W2 on position 2, HotBird on 3 and so on until you get to the satellite that you can watch, and which is on the western limit. If you can see the satellites which are more to the east from Astra then those numbers will be surely a bit different.
 
By this installation the biggest and the most common problems are related to precise directioning the dish so that it can perfectly follow the satellites in Clark’s belt. Usually it happens that you can see programs from two or three positions but when the motor is moved a little bit more the rest of the satellites and programs on them are unwatchable and the cause for that is wrong directioning of the dish. Check if you have do whole procedure right and that you’ve adjusted elevation and declination correctly.  
If some of the positions that you have are watchable but with interferences, release the screws which allows moving up and down the satellite dish, elevation by installation one or more satellites. Do not release other screws. Now easely move the dish up and down until you get clear picture. Watch out during that procedure because those moves must be in small steps almost micrometric or you’ll completely disorder all that what you’ve allready adjusted and you’ll have to do installation again from the begining. 
If you have and use the sat-meter then it will lighten your installation. Sat-meter shows with a pointer the strenght of received signal from the satellite. The more the pointer to the left is the better the signal is.
This is the most complicated satellite dish installation and it requires a certain level of expercy and off course skilfull hands. If you’re not certain what and how to do something the best solution would be to call installation master who will do it quickly and with highest quality.
  
Sat-meter is a device used for checking the right adjustment of the dish for each satellite that’s avaliable. On it you have to connect coaxial cable from LNB. It has it’s own power suplly and pointer whos declination is related to the strenght of the received signal. The better devices have even more avaliable options: possibility to show the right frequency, quality of the signal on specific frequencies and some of them have built in a little screen which can show picture and have oscilloscope which indicates the level and characteristics of the signal. 

Sheme for connecting manual control motor

 

Sheme for connecting automatic positioner control

 

Sheme for connectiong automatic positioner control throug remote control
 

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